@Elmkast That kind of self-image seems to work through social proof. So you see yourself based on how people treat you. But your interpretation of how people treat you is calibrated based on childhood experience.
@nindokag I'm With you up until the last but. you probably won't live to see the end of those things.
the fall is more of a slide down across like two hundred years than a crash in five.
j.m. Greer has some really great perspective on this
@lhwilkinson fits generally with the " factfullness " and "better angels of our nature " narrative.
good explanations of it in both those books
@nindokag why not bankruptcy?
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@machado agreed. the iron law is real and important for understand the world, but it also doesn't mean beuracrasy is a bad tool. sorry of like "fire of left unattended will spread to all available fuel" true but for is still a great tool.
interesting case study in March of dimes which completed it's initial mission (eradicated polio) and went on to do other great charity work.
A classic post on the misuse of categories in thinking and language http://lesswrong.com/lw/od/37_ways_that_words_can_be_wrong/ #heyfeedfox
@machado overly cynical. much of charity does actually hello the recipient in meaningful ways both long and short term. yes there is a lot of signaling bullshit built in, and it often leads to sub optimal focus, but in case you haven't noticed social coordination is really hard in general.
virtue signaling is not violence, not even at the level of streach given here.
the fact that human institutions are flawed isn't really the horror this article makes it out to be
@vgr are you going to put that in the predictions thread?
@riga "I saw the best minds of my generation wasted on online advertising"
I think this mostly happens to people who dislike themselves. they use others to hide from themselves, but gradually that stops working with any individual.
escaping this tap isn't about finding a better other person, but about finding a better self.
Would anybody here like to practice improv?
I've recently learned about discord and realized that the group voice chat is the perfect place to do some improv comedy online. I was really surprised it's not a thing yet, so I've made a server:
Come join us! You don't have to be good at this, English doesn't need to be your first language, socially awkward people are welcome! (I am one)
If you'd like to chat and make up some funny scenes - come have fun with us!
@riga I agree, can't figure out the appeal. but then I guess I'm no longer young enough to be hip and with it
@alper really? why? because you are sure you have it worse? for the record I'm on the category that you have no compassion for.
article seems weak to me.
the market has always been prone to react in strange ways or to not react at all, and is more about post hoc explanations.
the Senate has grumbled and then fallen in line with Trump every time
the courts are so slow that give the typical tenure of a trump appointment his new guy will have quite or been fired already before the slow wheels of Justice do anything
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