@Elmkast I do that by playing a little game in my head. I try to see how much I can find out without asking for their name, occupation, age, birthday, marital status, etc. Kind of like playing Taboo.

It's not against the rules for them to reveal it naturally in the course of conversation, so if I ask him how their weekend was and he says he spent it with his wife, I won't ask back if he has kids. I'll have to ask something else that leads to the answer being revealed, whenever it happens.

@Elmkast I don't see why that should stop people from trying to be deep friends anyway. If you're never gonna see them again, why tell them all about your life? Tell them about a book you read instead.

And if by chance you see them again, you could talk about whether you got any new insight about the book. And that would segue naturally into a conversation about your lives, and that discussion would now be more meaningful.

@Elmkast @octesian Conscious thinking is incredibly hard work! At least, that's the impression I get from teaching; few of my students take to it naturally.

It becomes natural habit if you've been doing it from young, but that requires precocious curiosity and mental tenacity I think.

@octesian @Elmkast I've heard about the intense-experience ability too. It's interesting to hear others describe it, but it's not high on my list of things to experience. Maybe I'm not being mindful enough of my lived experience ...

@Elmkast @octesian I've heard meditation described as having control of thought, i.e. not just "turning down the volume" of thought, but being aware that there is a knob and actually having control of it.

While I'm not the kind who likes to have TV/radio in the background in my daily life, I know people like that And I have the same craving for always-on internal monologue. Maybe when it starts interfering with daily living, I'll start a meditation routine.

@Elmkast Transcendence from meditation apparently is like that. At least, what I'm getting from SSC's book reviews about meditation says that it's like turning the volume (both loudness and number of thoughts) down on the inner monologue. It sounds fascinating and horrid at the same time to me, though I know many others crave it.

@nindokag Every developer who doesn't know about version control is a potential team that won't have version control 😵

@nindokag Teaching my students version control is the top thing on my list even if it's no longer in the syllabus, huhu

@nindokag Wow, that sounds like serious tribal identity right there.

@ykgoon That's a heavy burden, hang in there, man. You probably have to make the key decisions yourself, but let others help you with the daily stuff if you can (and they're willing).

@ykgoon My condolences, it must be tough losing parents. Do you have anyone to help you take care of things in the interim?

@Elmkast Yes, I think; wanting to know how the world works is easy.

Wanting to know how I work is the difficult part.

@Elmkast Yes. The danger many fear is that this knowledge will throw them into despair, because they won’t be able to figure a way out by lying to themselves.

If you can solve for that, it’s easier to ask learning questions in areas you want to commit to.

@Elmkast I spent most of my 20s learning similar lessons, lol


@Elmkast @kai I wouldn't let that worry me as long as you can maintain your GPA cap, lol. GPA concerns really take the wind out of learning, try not to overworry if you can help it.

@Elmkast Great for you! I very much enjoyed Linear Algebra and will very readily chalk it down as a major influence in pushing me towards more CS-related interests.

Also you're kinda gonna need it if you want to understand things like transforms for image/audio compression, the latter of which probably aren't that useful for urban planning, but transforms are one of those mind-bending concepts you can't unlearn which change the way you think about technical things.

@riga You'd think it would be better if they dogfood, but apparently not.

@nindokag @Elmkast He's living in the Bay Area, maybe they've got a bubble there 😂

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