@bkam @machado I tell students to paraphrase all the time, and I can see that those who put in the effort to do so tend to develop a more nuanced understanding, as opposed to rote recall.

@bkam Agreed. When I write with the intention of brevity, it doesn't really matter whether I write on paper or pen; the writing process is largely shaped by intention rather than medium.

On the other hand, it drives me nuts when my students message me on WhatsApp in bursts of 2-4 words per message. I am guessing that they were not very intentional in shaping their communication.

@bkam @kai What I'm taking away from that, in addition to some of my own observations and your experience, is the role of intentionality in the writing process.

I am supposing that if one's thought processes/writing style (is there a correlation? I strongly suspect so) have not yet been consciously formed, they would be more susceptible to influence by the medium of thought-forming. One whose thought processes have already been formed more firmly might perhaps be less easily influenced?

@bkam @kai Where their sentences were shorter and more self-contained when handwritten, they took on a longer, garden-path/stream-of-thought quality when typing on a keyboard (presumably after gaining some familiarity with it).

@bkam @kai Ah, I see what you mean. I was sloppy in my thinking; the article I was talking about (which I still can't locate) described observations by schoolteachers that when their young students (grades 3-5 IIRC? My memory is hazy) switched from writing by pen to typing on a computer, without further instruction in creative writing, their writings took on a different quality.

@bkam @kai (loved your zettelkasten posts btw but I don't have time to be as manual as gollum)

@bkam @kai Owning a pen would make you a very different kind of writer than if you owned a typewriter, or a keyboard and mouse with a PC. I don't have the links with me now, I should really be working at building a second brain.*

Using vim leads you to focus on content over formatting, for one. It leads you to focus on text as medium vs visuals or layout. I'm assuming we're talking about writing and not say opening config files for editing.

@ykgoon @machado @KingMob I don't worry about useful at the start, I just focus on pattern recognition and model collection.

The usefulness comes once you hit information critical mass 🤯

@ykgoon @machado @KingMob But the more difficult part is the mental ju-jitsu of what happens when they *do* get antagonised. That's a lot of mental practice of keeping your eye on your goal, managing your emotions and instinctive response of fight/flight, while coming up with suitable responses that can stall for time, figure out their intentions, or probe their buttons.

This is where it tends to pay off to be a fox rather than a hedgehog.

@ykgoon @machado @KingMob Why do you feel like you have to avoid antagonising them? If it's inevitable, then you should expect it to happen.

But if you can predict with some degree of success *when* it'll happen and *what'll* cause it to happen, that may enable you to wring something useful out of it ;)

@ykgoon Observe when and how they are contrarian, and see if there's a pattern. Is it for socialising, or do they do it even during work? Do they wait for everyone else to finish speaking before they counter, or do they try to say their piece immediately after someone else's statement? Do they only do it when they have something to gain by it, or is there some hill they would die on?

@ykgoon That sounds quite exploitable, if you ever need to work with such folks. But that's another story altogether.

@lhwilkinson “Instead, automation increases the likelihood that workers will be driven away from their previous jobs at the companies—whether they’re fired, or moved to less rewarding tasks, or quit—and causes a long-term loss of wages for the employee.”

I’m having some difficulty understanding the mechanism by which automation takes away more rewarding tasks from employees. Anyone have anecdotes to share?

@duane It seems like UBI can learn something from this, either in designing the reception process or in the packaging of the money (digitally or physically).

@duane A recent innovation in digital banking is e-"red packets", which let people gift a "red packet" digitally by transferring an amount to the other party through a mobile transaction platform, or by ordering a printed QR code to be scanned using an app. It's certainly more convenient, but you probably won't be surprised to learn that many older folks decry this practice because it disrupts the ritual and rips the meaning away

@duane Incidentally, we Chinese have a custom of giving (for adults) and receiving (for children/juniors) red packets. These almost always contain money, although the money is not the object of gifting.

Often, the money is of a quantity that is a "prosperous" number, e.g. ending in 8. This is meant to express wishes for the other party's fortune/prosperity. The ritual of the juniors wishing good health etc and the senior wishing prosperity/success etc is also part of the process.

@machado @duane From what little I know of cell biology, cells are no more subservient to the brain than citizens are to their government. I think that's what @duane was driving at.

@duane If UBI is implemented as monthly deposit in the bank, would it need something more to achieve the effect of such debt forgiveness? Something to remind them why they're getting money every month?

I hope I got your idea of debt forgiveness correct. I'm not suggesting we have an hour-long ceremony every month with everyone in attendance before they get their money, heh. But I suppose some kind of ritual that can effect this release from obligation mentally is an idea worth considering.

@duane @duane Speaking from the experience of receiving the Eucharist every Sunday, the psychological effect of this "forgiveness" comes not just from the receiving+consuming, but from the desire to receive it. One purpose of the Mass is to remind the congregation of why we're even doing this thing in the first place.

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