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Microsoft not even waiting for the body to hit the floor before releasing a Microsoft Java aka Microsoft Build of OpenJDK.

now the Java world has even more pressure to support these deviant weird os platform people, alas alas alas. welcome to the expanding world of Microsoftisms. it will not abate. extend extend extend, more Microsoftisms, everywhere, forever.

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@jauntywunderkind420 Haha I say good! Screw Oracle.

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@josh my premise here is that alas it's screwing Linux. that the new users are mostly dead weight, and that they're adding support burden & restricting the platform.

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Let's complain that people give money to the evil corporations instead of using our clunky arcane clusterfuck alternatives! Let's also complain that we don't actually want those people to use our clunky arcane clusterfuck alternatives because they're gonna want it to stop being clunky, arcane, clusterfucky and alternative.

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@machado people are welcome to pay corporations for whatever but a bunch of anti-free software closed black box environments don't deserve the free, sharing communities help.

arcane clusterfuck alternatives is not at all how i would characterize these civil, social lands. since systemd, there has been an established order & coherency. little is more arcane than it needs to be.

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@machado everyone's entitled to their opinions. and i'd rather those afraid of arcane, clusterfucky & alternative not bring their opinions & their ways of doing things to the places where we arcane clusterfucky & alternative people think we have order & coherence & workingness.

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@machado one of the great things about Linux is that you can refactor as much as the stack as you want. go build an init system, go build a desktop, go build whatever. and you can bring along as much interoperation as you want or not.

so, i welcome even the radical opinions. i welcome the criticism. but i'd far prefer a fork model of adoption/fixing arcane/clusterfucky/alternative situations, which linux supports wonderfully, rather than an extend & embrace model, where we all have to work together to build something that supports everyone very well & does all the things. concensus devolves to lowest common denominators too often, and i think there's great wisdom in different communities retaining their diversity & not being forcibly integrated.

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I don't entirely disagree. The average consumer just wants to have a bit less work on their end, even if it comes at the cost of other users having less freedom and the tools being controlled by an entity that only cares about their own interests.

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I don't really have the knowledge to speak about linux and similar produtcs/infrastructure, besides pointing out that requiring greater learning investment than commercial options will always drive people away. And it's those people who ultimately bankroll Microsoft's imperialist strategy (technically it's investors, but I'm assuming having paying costumers hasn't been rendered completely irrelevant to the process yet).

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(Well, actually, Microsoft doesn't look like an investor dependent thing. I'm not sure how their finances work now. They probably just have a machine that tells the bank how much money they want to have.)
My real point anyway is to shit on FOSS for refusing to lower the skill floor, because it's exactly the same discussion that happens in the fighting game community, where it always ends with the high skill faction getting screwed by financial reality.

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