@riga i think pair-programming well requires well-defined roles so you don't step on each other's feet (much like dancing!)

one person "driving" and the other "navigating" works well for me. You can also think of this as a "strategy" vs "tactics" division of labor, or a "what to do" vs "how to do it"


@jamescgibson @nindokag @riga Haha I saw this this morning and am trying to figure out what I want to say :)

I'm on the coding is intuitive side as well, though I see pairing more as a practice where you meld aesthetics rather than one person deciding everything. Sometimes long arguments break out, but you both should become better at the end of it.

Reminds me of a joke I've heard: "When you pair with someone you're pairing with everyone else they've ever paired with"

@riga @ykgoon @jamescgibson @scottwerner I kind of think that if you don't have a shared aesthetic/vision between programmers, the project is in trouble already.

If this is true, maybe pair programming is just getting the underlying disagreements out in the open sooner, before they fester into something that will break the project.

continuing @ykgoon's marriage analogy, sometimes it's healthier for the marriage to have the argument than to avoid it and quietly resent each other.

@nindokag @riga @ykgoon @jamescgibson definitely a shared aesthetic, but it won't ever be 100% since everybody comes with a different background, and where it isn't 100% is where the most interesting conversations and arguments come from.

A lot of people I've worked with all have a pairing ancestor in common, where we've either learned pairing from them or are at least 1 degree away. We still probably have two or three big arguments/discussions a week.

@ykgoon @jamescgibson @nindokag @riga haha :) you joke, but in a bigger team, if two people just keep pairing every day, we call it being "pair married"

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